Sea Levels Falling, with Ridd and Roberts

WE live at a time of so much misinformation and propaganda. What should we believe about global warming and sea level change: various claims, or what we can actually see in nature?

On Monday 7th September, I plan to show Dr Peter Ridd and Senator Malcolm Roberts evidence of a long-term trend of sea-level fall, which is etched in the shoreline at Noosa National Park.

I don’t mean that I am taking them out there in the afternoon when sea levels will fall by almost one metre over just a few hours because of the gravitational force of the moon. Rather I am referring to evidence for sea level fall over the last few thousand years, and some.

While there is much hype about a claimed 36-centimetre rise in sea level over the last 100 years, the longer-term, and more significant, trend is one of falling sea levels since at least the Holocene High Stand, and by more than 150 centimetres. Of course, sea levels were 12,000 centimetres (120 metres) lower just 16,000 years ago during the depths of the last ice age. During the time of the dinosaur’s – sea levels were more than 10,000 centimetres higher (100 metres) than they are now. Sea levels are always changing – on daily and also millennial time scales.


There is a cliff face immediately below the Boiling Pot Lookout, which is just beyond the main car park at the official entrance to Noosa National Park. Below the lookout, to the south, there is a wave-cut platform. A group of us went and stood on it during the highest astronomical sea tide this year, which was on Monday 10th February, and the waves did not get to the base of the cliff face – we weren’t washed away!

The cliff face below the Boiling Pot lookout, as photographed by my drone showing the wave cut notch.

Such cliff faces are formed where the cutting action of waves brings down great lumps of rock from above. The debris is then removed by the wash, and the headland recedes landward as the sea eats into the cliff face creating what are called wave cut notches.

That this platform, and the notch, is above the highest tides is evidence that the longer-term trend is one of sea level’s falling, not rising. If sea levels were rising, we would have been washed away when we stood on that platform at the time of the highest tide, particularly given that morning was coincided with an offshore low that further elevated sea levels.


Tea Tree Bay, just a bit further along the path into Noosa National Park, has interesting wave cut platforms of sandstone, with abrasions called marine potholes. Potholes are generally thought to be formed by the relentless grinding of harder rock – perhaps granite – caught in a depression in softer sandstone. Pounding surf causes the harder rock to swirl round and round, grinding around and also down.

The grinding that created the potholes at Tea Tree Bay could only have happened when sea levels were higher, when this platform was between the high and low water mark. For as long as I have visited this bay, it is only the highest tides that splash some water into the marine potholes. Last December they were full of freshwater and breeding tadpoles of the green tree frog.

This is further evidence that sea levels have fallen. But since when?


I received an email from a British geologist not so long ago, he wrote:

That is a really interesting photo of a wave-cut platform on your blog …

Drone view of Jen sitting beside a marine pothole at Tea Tree Bay, Noosa National Park

Some comments and questions:
1. It is a wave-cut platform – Fully agree, but is it bedding plane controlled?
2. It is a pot hole – Fully agree, but is it an exhumed pre-existing feature?

The thing that really catches my eye is the fracture pattern that goes around the ring of the pothole.
What is the geological age and nature of the sedimentary rock?

The fracture patterns are polygonal which suggests a fine-grained colloidal mudstone.

The fractures around the ring also imply the existence of a pre-existing body, possibly a fossilised tree trunk or if the rock is pre-carboniferous in age a stromatolite?
The pothole will therefore have exhumed this fossil sediment which we can assume had a different sedimentary infill.

Note the pattern of dimples round the pothole which, if this is a Jurassic age sediment could be due to the presence of roots of Taxodium sp.

Taxodium sp. tree with aerial roots, purchased as Image ID: 1128480158 from Shutterstock

So, the almost perfectly circular pothole was perhaps once a fossilised tree trunk, and it may date to the time of the dinosaurs!


There is a sign at Hell’s Gates, right at the end of that path through Noosa National Park, that explains the sandstones in the national park date to about (if I remember correctly the sign says, I can check on Monday) 120 million years ago.

I know that the dolorite rock intrusion to the north of Granite Bay, on the way to Hell’s Gates, has been dated to 145 million years. And the general consensus, including at Wikipedia, is that sea levels were a lot higher back then.

Really the only constant in life is change, along with sea levels!

Another drone shot, looking north from Granite Bay in Noosa National Park.


Some may claim that 145 million years ago is not a relevant time scale. So, when should history begin? I have been visiting Noosa since I was about ten years old, and now I live here. I’ve been looking for evidence of sea level rise for as long as I can remember, and I haven’t been able to see any: that is over the last 47 years.

There is a GPS reference station at Bundaberg (just to the north of Noosa) and Brisbane (just to the south). These indicate that there has been some land subsidence at a rate of -0.8mm/year and -1.8mm/year, respectively.

I’m guessing this is soil subsidence rather than crustal bedrock subsidence, but I’m happy to be corrected. Either way if there is such subsidence also occurring at Noosa, this reinforces my point that sea levels in the relatively recent past must have been higher to create the potholes at Tea Tree Bay and the wave-cut notch below Boiling Point.

This old photograph shows Jen at Noosa all the way back in 1973, and holding the tail of a Taylor fish. While there is not much evidence of sea level rise, there is some evidence of overfishing. Our community here in Noosa can be so selective in what it chooses to see and discuss. Most people will not accept what is so obvious in the shore line, that there is no evidence for catastrophic sea level rise. If as a community we are to be more relevant to nature and the present, let’s be as interested in the recreational and commercial fishing catch, as atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide and sea level change?


Pictures and commentary about the highest astronomical tide this year, and showing that the waves didn’t get to the base of the cliff face can be found here: with map.

About sea level change and the marine potholes:

About sea level changing with El Ninos and at Darwin:

Blog post with some good questions and more photographs here:

Considering the coastline in these pictures taken from my drone:
1. When are the sandstone platforms likely to have been cut by the waves?
2. Would the rock platform with the potholes have been cut during the last inter-glacial period from perhaps 140,000 to 120,000 years ago, or much earlier?

I understand that sea levels were about 2 metres higher 120,000 years ago, and about 1.5 metres higher 6,000 years ago. According to Warwick Willmott’s book entitled ‘Rocks and Landscapes of the Sunshine Coast’ the headlands of Noosa, Coolum and Point Cartwright were islands during the last inter-glacial. In between this last-interglacial and the beginning of the Holocene (some 11,600 years ago) we had a fall in sea levels of about 150 metres along the Sunshine Coast – I’m quoting again from Warwick Willmott.


Howard Brady sent me a list of peer-reviewed articles some time ago, with a note:

“There is evidence of a gradual fall (not rise) from a high sea level stand between 8000 and 2000 years BP [before present]. Such evidence comes from an increasing number of peer-reviewed articles describing evidence of this high sea level stand and its decline along the coasts of Australia, South Africa, South America, South Korea, and Vietnam.
There is increasing evidence that such a wide occurrence of a high sea level stand, especially in the Southern Hemisphere, cannot be interpreted as due to crustal movements (Glacial Isostatic Adjustments -GIAs) in different continents at the same time as these areas did not experience any significant glacial or ice crustal loading during the last ice age advances.

Basically, there is now so much data on this fall in sea level from a high-level stand that the GIAs quoted by Dutton and Lambeck (2012) should be abandoned. A few references to peer reviewed articles describing a high sea level stand in the HTM and the fall in sea-level from 8000 -2000 BP are listed below. There is no justification for any glacio-eustatic uplift since 8000 BP that stopped (for some unknown reason about 2000 BP) in regions that did not experience any ice loading during the last glaciation.


Accordi, A, Carbone, F, 2016. Evolution of the siliciclastic-carbonate shelf system of the northern Kenyan coastal belt in response to Late Pleistocene-Holocene relative sea level changes. Journal of African Earth Sciences. Volume 123, November 2016, Pages 234-257
Baker, R.G.V., Haworth, R.J; 2000. Smooth or oscillating late Holocene sea-level curve? Evidence from the palaeo-zoology of fixed biological indicators in east Australia and beyond. Marine Geology Volume 163, Pages 367-386.
Baker, R.G.V., Haworth,R.J., Flood,P.G; 2001. Warmer or Cooler late Holocene palaeoenvironments? Interpreting south-east Australian and Brazilian sea level changes using fixed biological indicators and their d18 Oxygen composition. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology Volume 168, Pages 249-272.
Baker,R.G.V., Haworth,R.J., Flood,P.G; 2001. Inter-tidal fixed indicators of former Holocene sea levels in Australia; a summary of sites and a review of methods and models. Quaternary International Volume 83-85, Pages 257-273.
Baker,R.G.V., Haworth,R.J., Flood,P.G; 2005.An Oscillating Holocene Sea-level? Revisiting Rottnest Island, Western Australia, and the Fairbridge Eustatic Hypothesis. Journal of Coastal Research, Special Issue no.42.
Bracco,B. et al; 2014. A reply to “Relative sea level during the Holocene in Uruguay. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology.Volume 401.
Bradley, S, Milne,G, Horton,B, Zong,Y 2016. Modelling sea level data from China and Malay-Thailand to estimate Holocene ice-volume equivalent sea level change. Quaternary Science Reviews Volume 137, Pages 54-68
Chiba,T et al;, 2016. Reconstruction of Holocene relative sea-level change and residual uplift in the Lake Inba area, Japan. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, PalaeoecologyVolume 441, Part 4, Pages 982-996
Clement, A, Whitehouse,P, Sloss, S 2015. An examination of spatial variability in the timing and magnitude of Holocene relative sea-level changes in the New Zealand archipelago. Quaternary Science Reviews. Volume 131, Part A. January 2016, Pages 73-101
Haworth,R.J., Baker,R.G.V., Flood,P.G; 2001. Predicted and observed Holocene sea-levels on the Australian coast: what do they indicate about hydrostatic models in far field sites? Journal of Quaternary Research Volume 17, Pages 5-6.
Lee, S., Currell. M, Cendon, D. 2015. Marine water from mid-Holocene sea level highstand trapped in a coastal aquifer: Evidence from groundwater isotopes, and environmental significance. Science of The Total Environment. Volume 544. February 2016, Pages 995-1007
Oliver and Terry, 2019. Relative sea-level highstands in Thailand since theMid-Holocene based on 14C rock oyster chronology. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology,Volume 517. Pages 30-38
Prieto, A. Peltier, W. 2016. Relative sea-level changes in the Rio de la Plata, Argentina and Uruguay: A review. Quaternary International.
Sloss, C. R. 2005. Holocene sea-level change and the amino-stratigraphy of wave-dominated barrier estuaries on the southeast coast of Australia, PhD thesis, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Wollongong, 20.
Sloss C.R, Murray-Wallace C.V, Jones B.G, 2007. Holocene sea-level change on the southeast coast of Australia: a review. The Holocene 17, 7. 999-1014.
Strachan K, et al, 2014. A late Holocene sea-level curve for the east coast of South Africa. S. Afr. j. sci. vol.110 n.1-2

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September 3, 2020 at 03:41PM

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